This comment has been removed by the author. The ADVA is dedicated as a LIVING MEMORIAL to all veterans of the Americal Division. I remember the USS Skipjack coming in and also Canadian and Australian boats also .As we who were fortunate know Scotland is a beautiful country,and is on my bucket list to return !! I'd like to take my wife to Scotland and show her all of the places I lived and visited. and can not be used without permission from AboutSubs. The Holy Loch (Scottish Gaelic "An Loch Sianta/Seunta") is a sea loch in Argyll and Bute, Scotland. The country and its people were truly awesome. I remember two Navymen, one was Dale Leazer and the other one was Roger Pearson. SUBRON-14 expanded rapidly as the personnel gained experience and the number of supported submarines grew, but there would never a base at Holy Loch; instead, the US Navy facilities were integrated with the local community, with Sandbank and Dunoon providing shore facilities. Leslie,No, I don't know the people mentioned above. It was the home base of Submarine Squadron (SUBRON) 14, part of Submarine Force, U.S. Atlantic Fleet. Over a 30 year span, Los Alamos completed over So many fond memories of the Scottish people, they are amazing. UMAVA's Mission & Values, and Ongoing Projects. Learn about our homelessness programs. Thanks for writing. All Rights Reserved. Our members include veterans, spouses, partners, widows and family members and number around 40. The accommodation is 5.4 miles from Benmore Botanic Garden, and guests benefit from private parking available on site and free WiFi. Could you send some photos of yourself - then and now - to www.pauldavisoncrime.com.I wished that I had become friends with you as well. Lol sorry I just couldnt help myself Hey Paul great article, I served on the USS Canopus AS-34 1975 thru 1977 and was on board in Holy Loch for the ships last year of duty out there. She has since married from someone on the tender but I stayed friends with her parents all the way into the early 90's. In the early days the Yanks brought their Chevies and Caddies with them. The memorial sits on a relatively exposed point of land, which is subject to sea erosion, meaning that the monument is in danger of being lost if the site is note maintained. Built during the 1920s, in remembrance of those who fell in World War I, the names of those who have fallen in subsequent conflicts have since been added, together with those lost in incidents in the Holy Loch. Holy Family Hall, Rm 205. they were based at the holy loch in 69 and went to America with the girls in 71. google_ad_client = 'pub-9912973797081854'; I am taking this opportunity of writing to you before we make any approach to the Palace.. From Plank Owners (1963) to the Decommissioning Crew. The Holy Loch American Veterans Association collected 300 towards the work, which was presented to the Sandbank Community Development Trust, to be used as part-payment of the 500 restoration cost associated with the lamp mounted on the stone pillar west of the main monument. You can email me @ wezweeanne@gmail.com if you have any way to help me. Use tab to navigate through the menu items. I nicked named Scotland land of the liquid sunshine. Lazaretto Point was the site of a quarantine station, built in 1807 the station was installed to prevent the importation of disease along with the bales of cotton arriving by boat. I missed being young. About Moira & Holy Loch Pottery Moira Ferguson has taught and made pottery for over forty years. Wished I could have stayed much longer. I saw the biggest snow flakes in my life there as big as half dollars, milk delivered with thick cream on top and the coal delivery guy was 5' at best but carried two giant bags of coal for us to heat with! The MoD is also rethinking its plan to build a new all-weather sports facility at Ardenconnel in Rhu, and is instead looking at other sites in the wider area. Was able to procure the alarm bell out of the Marine Corps Guardshack which we used during security violations. Everyone should realize the important role Site One played in the Cold War. Well I was a junior electrical merchant so I didn't actually do much in the way of Co ordination. I was on the U.S.S. Can you send photos of yourself and the tug to pauldavisoncrime@aol.com Thanks for writing. (function() { : You can click on some of the above photos to enlarge., Paul Davis is a writer who covers crime. Thank you. they are my sisters. google_ad_height = 60; Kilmun Parish Church and. Perhaps I too will at least get to see the area. And you can contact Paul Davis at pauldavisoncrime@aol.com. Nice article Paul, I was on the USS Natick 1969-1971 and saw both the Simon Lake and Canopus exchange duty stations. We lived in Kirn and I went to the local school there.there was a little shop close to the school that had the best cheese sandwiches. I'm in contact with a couple of guys from the Saugus. He enlisted in the U.S. Navy when he was 17 in 1970. The Dry Dock, USS Los Alamos (AFDB-7), was towed to Scotland in '61, and Dated young girl there back in the late sixties. Anonymous,I'd like to go back to Scotland as well one day.Thanks for writing,Paul. Directly opposite Lazaretto Point, on the northeast shore of the loch, is Graham's Point, once connected by a small ferry which sailed between the two points. Initially HMS Titania was the depot ship alongside which the submarines moored and at the end of 1941 she was replaced by HMS Forth. Anonymous,You should be proud of your father.Please thank him for his service. woman relaxing in nature. The floating dock could handle up to five submarines, with four being moored alongside while one was raised within the dock itself. Edinburgh has a statue of an ancestor of mine, Sir Wm Pitt. Further information will be posted here shortly, including hotel reservation information and how to register for the reunion. Proteus' crew were reputedly hand picked to give the best possible impression of the US. Many good memories from my Hunley time there 1986-1987 when we left. Holy Loch was by far the best duty in my short career (4 years). In 1942, a permanent base was established in Rothesay Bay, which remained until 1957. This message board is for former shipmates of CSS-14 who would like to discuss having a reunion or discuss how a recent reunion went . During World War II, the loch was used a submarine base. At Holy Loch Inn, you may order tasty biscuits. Enjoyed reading all of these articles,Im a local to Dunoon,I moved here two months after the USNavy left.All i here are these great stories about,how it was back then.Sounds amazing! Valued Relationships. In autumn 1959, the US Government had to provide forward servicing facilities for the first SSBN squadron to be based in the UK, and studies were carried out to determine the most suitable location for such a refit facility, leading to the final selection of the Holy Loch in July 1960. Hi there,Im a local to Dunoon,I live in Kirn,Just across the road from Dunoon Academy secondarily school,Your not missing much.The place has never recovered from the US Navy leaving,slowly declining each year.Woolworths closed about 5 years ago,& the tobacco shop across the road from Woolworths closed about 2 years ago,well the tobacco side of it,isnt there anymore,but the shop still sells the cool little trinkets etc(ie candy jars)The Calmac ferry service has even stopped to Dunoon. FAQs | FIND A POST | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY POLICY Copyright AMVETS National Headquarters. HOME. Commenting has been disabled thanks to the attention of scum known as spam commenters, Page last modified on Wednesday, 08 March 2017, at 12:20. I took Highland dance lessons. for the memory's peace and respect to you, Steven,Sadly, I don't recall the name of the third chief I briefly served under in late 1975. We were there about a week. SE4-EP141. I remember A.J. DID ALOT OF HIKING WITH THE DUFFLE BAG FULL OF BEER. In 1992, the USS Simon Lake sailed down and out of the Firth of Clyde - the occupation was over. Following an approach to the British government, requesting permission to establish a refit site in the United Kingdom for Fleet Ballistic Missile (FBM) submarines, an agreement was negotiated which permitted the US to use the Holy Loch, on the Firth of Clyde, for the anchorage of a submarine tender, a large dry dock, and other supporting craft. Just read and enjoyed all the articles people wrote about the Holy Loch. If anyone was a kind and bright light in Dunoon it was Anselmo Mario Franceschi. He has interviewed police commissioners and chiefs, FBI, DEA, HSI and other federal special agents, prosecutors, public officials, WWII UDT frogmen, Navy SEALs, Army Delta operators, Israeli commandos, military intelligence officers, Scotland Yard detectives, CIA officers, former KGB officers, film and TV actors, writers and producers, journalists, novelists and true crime authors, gamblers, outlaw bikers, and Cosa Nostra organized crime bosses. It seemed at times you could see all four seasons before you walked from one end of the pier to the other. JB, Good to hear from another Holy Loch vet. - holy loch stock pictures, royalty-free photos & images. - Helensburgh set to swell under wave of 1.3bn Navy expansion - Helensburgh Advertiser. My brotherinlaw John Patrick Shannon worked in the engine room on the USS Holyloch. . Charles L. Witherow created the group Holy Loch American Veterans Association "HLAVA". Great memories!! and his green cigars when we went underway and then there was this guy that fell asleep tying his shoes. Holy Loch now is the only remaining U.S. base for nuclear missile-armed submarines outside the U.S. Its 2,000 soldiers, with 150 American civilians and 2,000 dependents, have become a fixture in . Approximately one mile across, the loch extends inland for between two and three miles the west, depending on the tide. Mary T. Loch. AMVETS HI-0005, West Loch Post (EIN: 83-2332933) AMVETS HI-0006, Ewa Battlefield Post ; AMVETS HI-0007, Barbers Point Post IRS Tax Guide for Veterans' Organizations; Thankfully, they always missed.Thanks for your service as well.Paul. Hi I married a sailor off the Natick in may 1967.Went to live in Detroit with my husband in 1970 We both returned back to Scotland in 1980 and still live in Glasgow We have been married 44yrs. In the early 1960s my husband was assigned to the USS Thomas Jefferson (SSBN 618). Does that sound like Holmes?Thanks for writing.Paul, thanks for getting back to me Paul. Thank you. Join Navy Veterans. Since GST was granted SCIO (Scottish Charitable Incorporated Organisation) status on 27th June 2019, the board of trustees and project coordinator have worked hard to fulfil their role within the community. Did four refits on boats out of Comsubron 14. Stephen,Yes, Scotland was, and remains, I'm sure. Beautiful pictures, I was in the Marine Detachment onboard the Hunley from 1985-June 1987 when we were relieved by the Simon Lake. According to local legend, the sand was to have been used for the construction of a local church. My father, CPO Clay Bailey set up the base services at the old Ardnadam Hotel in Sandbank in '61. //]]>. The 1943 film We Dive at Dawn, starring John Mills, was filmed in the area, including scenes shot at a number of sites including HMS Forth and and Ardnadam Pier. They demand that a nuclear weapon be fired at the submarine base on the Holy Loch, or they will kill all the hostages and themselves. Linda,You should be proud of your father's service. 1: 2: Looking for charles jerome hudson by possilgirl Oct 10, 2005 8:25:07 GMT -5: CSS-14 Staff Reunions. Now live in Missoula, Montana (Scotland in Western Montana).Jesse Tropical Missoula, MontanaScotland in Western Montana. Burial will take place at a later date at Arlington National Cemetery. A service will be held on Monday, August 23, 2021 at 2PM at First Baptist Church, 414 Main Street, West Point, VA, 23181. Site One refit. The gardens are on the west side of the A815 road from Dunoon, between the Holy Loch and Loch Eck, and include footbridges across the River Eachaig. Maybe in the near futureThanks for writing.Paul. Thanks for your service and thanks for writing.Paul. A submarine tender and a drydock with an assorted collection of naval equipment, all located in a Scottish sea loch provided a vital link during the first decades of the US Navy's Polaris fleet operations, allowing quick and easy access to the patrol areas in the seas around the north and north west coast of . I'd love to go back for a visit.Thanks for writing.Paul. Below is a photo of me as a young man in "civies" on a Scottish street, circa 1974. June 1987, the Hunley was relieved by the Simon Lake (for a second tour) which served until March 1992. The Holy Loch was a Royal Navy Submarine base during World War II It's a very special place, and I'm grateful for having had the opportunity He went on to do security work as a Defense Department civilian while working part-time as a freelance writer. Americans became active participants in many community related events. We had our little spook shack on the back of the ship. Anselmo has passed on, but the fish and chips are still SO good! During World War II, the Holy loch was used as submarine base. Notable is the mention of the arrival of the depot ship USS Proteus, which had been converted to be the first Polaris submarine tender during 1959-61, and had required the insertion of a 44-foot section amidships, where the missiles would be serviced. Paul, I served there on Hunley from when she first arrived and left her in late 63 for separation. Although the precise location is unconfirmed, the area is believed to have had its own degaussing station, which closed in 1945, leaving 20 redundant locals. Most of them had crumpled righthand front fenders (wings), the roads here were narrow, often single carriageway, and in an emergency the Americans pulled to the right with the inevitable consequence. WHAT A SURPRISE. In order to retain her status as a seagoing ship, she is said to have gone to sea for a couple of days a year, which entitled her crew to purchase duty-free cigarettes. A fictionalised version of the operation was later told in the 1955 film The Cockleshell Heroes, with Trevor Howard, Anthony Newley and Jos Ferrer. I only wished I hadn't Complained all the time and had been a better cook. Loved the pubs in Dunoon and the fish & chips. I was born in Greennnock August 18th 1962. Hi Paul,I was stationed with you in Holy Loch. The submarines received supplies,maintenance andrepairs at the floating Navy base. Life insurance. Assistant Registrar of Academic Services. A third ship, the First Class Battleship Sans Pareil (the third of that name) was also sold to TW Ward, for 26,600. Agreement for the use of Holy Loch was reached near the end of 1960 and the arrival of the first tender, USS Proteus (AS-19) scheduled for December. Specialties: American Veterans Care Association's goals are to create and promote a supportive system of care long denied to American and Native American Veterans after their absence in civilian life due to the demands of having served under the United States Armed Forces. I know im clutching at straws, but I know my sisters are looking for me, we just keep missing each other.If anyone knows of any americans doing this please can u help me. Strange to see no evidence of a sub base. Copyright 1999 ~ All Rights Reserved. Holy Loch Port are heading to Seatrade Fort Lauderdale from the 14th to the 16th March. Pubs and clubs prospered, but what of the rest of the town? The call is free and confidential (private). Flemming, Glenn Francis. Natick 760 is now in Boston Naval Shipyard. Subscribe to this Obituary Your Email Address (Required) Tribute Wall At one point, Dunoon was named as the town with the most taxis per head of population. Paul, thanks for sharing and this story sure has legs!!! During World War II the Holy Loch was used temporarily as a British submarine base. I still keep in contact with one of those guys. In 1961, Dunoon found itself suddenly transformed from a slightly rundown seaside resort to a garrison town. Site One was a US submarine refit facility which was located on the southern shore of the Holy Loch for 31 years. HUNLEY and the SIMON LAKE. I was looking for photos to see if anything jogged a memory and stumbled across your post. What may have been forgotten is that the area went through similar periods before. })(); The Holy Loch is a sea loch which lies two miles north of Dunoon on the Cowal peninsula. Unless we have a merchant marine, our navy if called upon for offensive or defensive work is going to be most defective.William Howard Taft (18571930), February 1964, completed the first "off center" docking of a Polaris submarine. Dino, SKC (SW) (USN) (Retired). Terms & Conditions 2005-2023 SeScoThis work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International LicenseThis web site and its pages are licensed for personal, private, or non-commercial use only. '+e$$5.message)}catch(e$$6){}}; I beleive he was an E~6 when his 4 yrs were up in 1978. Also spent several days ported at Greenock. The entrance lies on the west coast of the Firth of Clyde, marked by Strone Point to the north, and Hunter's Quay to the south. Proteus, arrived on station march 3, 1961.) This place is well known for its great service and friendly staff, that is . The . I was about four and my dad, Bill Hahn, was stationed on the Canopus and later the James Madison. I hope to take my wife there one day - in the summer, of course.Paul, Hi , I have been looking for a marine froM the Simon lake , 19 66 ,67" 68, his first name was George ,and his last name was blaseg , not sure of the spelling of his last name. I had so many friends who were American would love to know where they are now, Lester Reed, Courtnay taylor, Julie Ewbanks, Sharlene Flanders, so many. To safeguard the entitlements of American veterans, AMVETS provides service such as VA claim filing assistance, employment assistance, advocacy in D.C., & more. Mr. Black was the electrician. In March 1992, the last US Navy ship, the submarine tender USS Simon Lake, sailed out of the Holy Loch, ending thirty one years of American presence in the area. Negotiations with the British Government began as early as March 1959 when President Dwight D. Eisenhower mentioned the need to British Prime Minister Harold Macmillan at a meeting at Camp David. Paul. Went into Glasgow. Box 2865, Ewa Beach, Hawaii 96706 It is pledged to foster true American patriotism, provide social and fraternal activities for all members, encourage allegiance to the United States and to its flag, and to perpetuate the traditions and history of the Americal Division of the United . Latest Videos on Legion TV. That is such a killer View. February 2017 saw the announcement of confirmed plans to expand the submarine base at Faslane, HMNB Clyde, which is hard not see as mirroring the effects seen previously at Dunoon: NEW housing, more community facilities and better transport links are key to making sure Helensburgh is ready for a major increase in the area's Royal Navy population. TWS is the largest online community of Veterans existing today and is a powerful Veteran locator. VABenefits@holyfamily.edu. American children received their education in primary schools in Dunoon, Kirn, Sandbank and St Munns, then in Dunoon Grammar School when they were older. Site One Holy Loch Scotland Association Created by William (Bill) Karr ETC(SS) (See other events) May 12, 2011 at 2:00am to May 15, 2011 at . Thanks for writing. How can we assist you? In August 1907, the same paper reported that the battleship HMS Hero was towed from the Loch by another battleship, HMS Hindustan, and taken to Portsmouth, there to be sunk and used as an underwater target for submarine torpedo practice. Jon Elkins, hi anon, I am trying to trace an American couple based there in 1969, they provisionally adopted 2 girls from Glasgow social works dept in 71 and promptly took them to America.would you know of any of the americans were doing this. The object of "HLAVA", a non-profit military veterans organization, is to serve as a local association to support and assist its members; to provide a focal point for information; to cultivate and. In many community related events Pottery for over forty years charles L. Witherow created the group Holy is. 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