The word Inbreeding is thrown around as if it was a curse word. I want all the colors i may breed i may not breed, but as with any thing line breeding can cause problems. They are just as loving as any other color. yes the whites are known to have health issues, the blacks seem ok and are rarely found anyway. They always have. I now have a black and tan female and a red male both 3 years old that I adopted. This color shouldnt be breed. They have a small amount of pigment, which makes the coat cream and the eyes blue. All love on four paws. I have a beautiful,sweet WHITE dobie who will be five this year. -Thanks. The are different dogs breeds that are available for this however I think for me these two breeds are the best since I have such a personal history and now the breed combination well. Margawhat state are you in? Yeah, I dont take her out in the middle of the day( we live in Florida) but I dont go out in the middle of the day either! He got all the best traits of each breed but especially the goofy tendencies Dobies can have. Again you may get lucky and have no issues with your dob now but the percent is huge on these to have extreme health issues. Thanks for sharing your story about your sweet girl. Mutt dogs and shelter dogs can have very unpredictable behavior problems. Shelter dogs arent for everyone. 2. They are excellent for people with allergies in my humble opinion, very short hair, single coat (no undercoat) Very clean and almost cat like. The one in white what type of doby is this???? Still available? They had a rainbow litter of 1 black, 2 reds, 1 fawn, and two white twins( sadly one of the twins were still born.) Again, ethical breeders who care about Dobermans wont breed these dogs. The pure ignorance (and arrogance) in a lot of these comments is overwhelming. Just because you read one article, dont take it for fact. her eyes are sensitive to the sun and she does seem to have a somewhat sensitive stomach. They each had the same personality characteristics, that we all hold in such high regards as their acceptable colored cousins. Of course, as is the case with ANY short haired whit dog, there are limitatipns to sun exposure, much the same as with fair-haired humans-They both sunburn easily. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. I am proud to say I own a white doberman male one of the best i have ever had as a companion I also have kids and he thinks he is one of them. Hi Samuel, My white Doberman is both death and blind but very sweet. She has never had an issue in health her whole life. Andreawong.jgk@gmail.com. However, they are a bit of a roulette because the negative qualities of their parental breeds are also there. If you need more information about 55+ Doberman Haversham Purebred, you can check the following LINK . I currently have two dogs: a purebred red nose pitbull male and a chocolate brindle female pit lab mix. No. I know they are rated as the 5th most intelligent breed, but IMHO our Dobbie was simply the most intelligent dog we owned. I have raised Black and Tan, Red and Tan, Blue and Cream and Tan. In fact, one of these White Doberman Pinschers is a Police Dog. Just one opinion. I made a broadcast post that we have adopted a 7 month old. You should come to Alaska, Today, they are sought after, registered and shown (successfully). This is a difficult question as it is not really possible to tell whether a purebred white tiger has/has not any particular advantage genetically over a normal coloured tiger. People like you need to be shot. Hes Regal. Keep him for a week let him run and do all the things that make him happy, then bring him back. Having said that, his eye sight is not perfect. You sound scarily superior to the rest of us Thread from 2 posts above Wouldnt it be nice if we could guarantee that the breeders of the white Dobermans had as much integrity as you think your daughter has ? U sound like an idiot! So they are very susceptible to sunburn, vision problems. So me and my husband adopted a 10 month old Doberman from San Antonio Doberman Rescue and advocacy. I had a Blue Doberman. Youre a FUCKING BOZO!!!! Get off your high horse hippe! As far as Im concerned they are the best all around breed you can get. She does not have any health problems what so ever! We have done all the testing that any breeder should do. Never a problem with this. I had never seen a white Doberman before, so I wanted to look them up. just because your white dog is healthy now doesnt mean it wont run into issues later. I am now 16) I can say that for some people, purebred dogs are better. Just had her ECG and all done at just past 11 and still everything perfect. I have known many White Dober-girls/boys, through Brigette. Below you can see the traditional black and tan Doberman color alongside a red Doberman. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. Also if you purchase an albino doberman you are getting ripped off. it just goes on and on and so could i but im done. She said it worked well. I have Never seen an Albino, they arent deaf, or skittish, or brain damaged, as described by bias people who refuse to look at real proof. Theyre the ones who cause animals to suffer and waste billions of dollars in resources that could be used elsewhere. Thanks for any info. But for this specific condition it may be a good idea. Deduction is usual $100 $200, and your reimbursement 80% of your bill. Youll see for yourself the conclusion and stance that the Doberman community has taken on this. Hope this helps with your decision making. Colour shouldnt matter to that degree that health is sacrificed. I use Innova Red Meat food for my dog and healthy ppl food and he is healthy as a horse. So smart and loves attention. My daughter breeds dobermans for the better of the breed, she can tell you all you need to know and more of what you want to know. White Dobermans today descend from Sheba, who was inbred to create white Dobermans. I dont want to see an outstanding breed tarnished by this uneducated, irresponsible behavior. The white dobie has long since outgrown the initial inbreeding through which the breed was developed,as the Bullmastiff once did. Wish us luck! So I was thinking of her as well. Wow. Whe I read your post I thought it was a match made in heaven then I read on He claimed because of the blue eyes that they were not albinos and had a fair amount of references from happy owners who claimed they had no uncommon problems. I will eventually get another dobie but I need to get past loosing Galileo. Great looking dog, although someone did a hack job on his ears. We love our Porsche and are learning to adapt. The White DobermanPinscher came from inbreeding and is considered apartial albino Doberman. But, if you speak with knowledgeable professionals, who hold no bias, you will hear, time after time, after time that the gene that carries the diluted white..DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY CARRY WEAKENED, UNHEALTHY CHARACTERISTICS.This is a fallacy. It should help you out. We also own a blue female and she has been much easier to take care of. A post shared by Mazikeen Zenobia (@mazetherotterman_) 2. The funny part comes in with all the responsible breeders implying that their dogs werent inbred 1000 times to get to the breed standard. She bathed the dog in it and used in spray bottle as insect deterrent. But, but, but, hesitate to put this into words, like words would make it more real. Evilboo..you are one mature young ladyrespect. I find it offensive that they are still so many people who have such passionate feelings on the subject cant even do min. Perhaps if people quit trying to stop what every one is doing and started promoting responsible pet ownership, first and foremost, maybe more people would be able to enjoy the breed. That is why the AKC registers them (albeit with the distinguishable Z designation much in part to the decrying of folks whonm think they are much smarter than they are in the area of all things wise and wonderful). The dilute colors were frowned upon in their beginning as well. First problem: MoZart lost ALL of his hair/coat from the neck to his hind quarters. Both my Black/rust girl, Phoenix and Steele get a fleece lined coat in the Winter. My Shepherd has no problems with my Mini Pin. And ever since Ive been sharing what Ive learned with other Dobie fans. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. ALBINOS (which there is scientific proof that they are in fact albinos) are always from back yard breeders. albino from parents with no albinistic mutations), but they are very, VERY rare. Knock on wood no problems for him. People that breed white dobermans are disgusting & the people who are buying them are too! A beautiful White female Doberman placed in the last DPCA Nationals. His appearance is that of a GS trapped in a Dobie body. MysticPink, or anyone else that may be having trouble with allergies, gas, itching, hives, rashes, bad breath, picky eaters.please feel free to contact me, as well:). Are you still looking for a rescue? The white and the black. Thanks so much! This socialization needs to continue even after puppy-hood on a consistent basis. last but not least Dobermans have one flaw THEY DONT LIVE FOREVER. I have a white Dobberman, he is the BEST! All dogs no matter what breed should be spayed bottom line. Best yet is a responsible owner that does not spay or neuter and keeps their pet from unwanted breeding. Adding to the confusion, the color names also vary around the world, some Europeans call red Dobermans, brown. Would like to tell you my story. Seriously: Seek help. Why us americans have single handedly ruined or waterd down any good dogs they ever touched, do some reading and you will have to agree.. We bring dogs in this country and brred them until they cannot do what it was intended to do we make them all couch potatoes show dogs and change the way they are suposed to look so much they just couldnt to a job even if they wanted to. Chantelle would push her nose under her hand and flip it to land on her head. Our last shepherd Sebastian was so depressed he wouldnt eat and hid in the corner. [2] The Dobermann has a long muzzle. I have yet to see them capable of working well in what they originally were bred for (protection). Your going off on the author of this site does nothing to change that. We nursed her for 2 months and then gave in to euthanize her. Pinterest. please dont make more problems than the breed already has ! If one does choose a shelter dog tho, they must be spayed or neutered before u can bring them home. Dr. S. At the University of Saskatchewan says that color has no bearing on the health and temperament of a dog. Ive owned Dobermans over the years. The good news is we have an article and some pictures about what you're looking for. there is nothing wrong with white dobermans. These last two Doberman colors, the greys, and fawns are sometimes discouraged from breeding. shame on you who would cull a white pup, just because it is white. I would have wanted male white doberman and female from different nests, in Europe I can not find. It means they are subject to more possible health problems and should not be used for breeding. They have even discovered that Neanderthals had red hair and blue eyes. Known ailments associated with the Doberman (Von Willebrands Disease, Wobbles, Hip-Dysplasia) come from careless breeding. It is proven that the higher percentile have major health issues and a lot of the shows dont accept them for reasons! MONEY. With the AKC you will know if the doberman has the possibility of having the recessive trait due to the Z attached to the end of the registration number. He does things that make me laugh all of the time. Thats the main goal of AKC, UKC, CKC and any other kennel clubs. Cause I promise not everyone loves your children. I have never been owned by a White, but Ive been blessed to know several, very, very well. Your comment is awaiting moderation. They are very fearless, curious, and playful. (If the shoe fits). But whats the problem with the all-black ones? I think it needs to be said that while whites are beautiful, intelligent, loving and just as wonderful as any other color of dobe, the akc doesnt accept them. Rotterman: Rottweiler x Doberman Mix. The germs cannot ever develop an immunity as they can with antibiotics because of the way it works. Calling them stupid. It seems the Doberman breed has a very strong heart. Before I bought our current Red Male, the breeder asked what I was looking for, I said I was a little partial to a Red Male never having owned a Red before. Get yourself another color more to your liking. Albino is not a variation of color it is a lack of color. I will say the bad press about white/cream does not help. Not breeding them is a ridiculous notion as purebreds do have their uses (hounds are bred for hunting and they excel at it. Weve got nothing but good to say about him. Ive come into contact with a white before and I fell in love but I dont really know where to look. If your white Doberman really doesnt have any health or behavioral issues then you are EXTREMELY lucky, for Ive never once seen a white Doberman without at least one of the issues I mentioned before. I have a beautiful loving white dobe, he is very healthy and weights in at a nice 92 his skin is good, i hav a red doberman right now and i luv her to death and once one of my dogs die we might get a blue doberman do u hav any suggestions otherwise, People the dogs arent genetical cripples because of the color. So let my story short my Dobermans have been great with all ages and protects to the death. The answer, Anything and everything! From cleaning solvents to toxins such as rat poison. Should I be concerned? When the auto-complete results are available, use the up and down arrows to review and Enter to select. When we walk in our little town, shes a rock star. It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. Its just a thing we do to protect our four-legged family members. HOWEVER I have also read a vast number of reports from people who claim to have skin, eye, stomach, and bone issues with their whites. Think I talked to Tabetha. And breed twards the dogs origanal purpose and utilize those skills and abilities and make your dog the best it can be with a job and a life purpose that fufills its dna its urgess to do something.. These black Dobermans are not part of the official standard for the breed. The Doberman Pinscher is a sleek, agile, and powerful dog standing 24 to 28 inches (61 to 71 cm) at the withers and weighing 60 to 100 pounds (27 to 45 kg). Yup, did not think it wise to have a pup, but then life happens. Ive had German lineage Black and Rust Dobes (larger more stout and a bit calmer), American bred Black and Tan and my favorite an American Red (brown and rust). Ive owned nothing but dobermans for 30 years and I have owned and rescused every color, including the z factor whites. Dilutes are a financial commitment that some people just dont realize, and thats why you see so many on Craigslist and rescue groups. Sarah: I have to agree, albinos have red eyes not blueso that kind of confuses me (Only on this subject because I wanted a little bit of advise before getting a white Doberman. She is 7 month old and so beautiful. Darwins theories of natural selection might suggest that a white tiger would not be able to breed in nature due to its different-ness, however, nature and reality clearly evidence that this genetic variant continues to procreate on our planet. You are right, you do have to be a bit careful with White Dobes getting too much sun. But most of them will. We also had a Doberman named Cleo who was hands down the most amazing dog. Give your head a shake. The puppies are black and brown except for a blue one and a red/rust ones. Tails should be docked in the first 3days after the dog is born. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to feed her? I own a white Dobeman Tierra who is now 7 years old. Thats when she gave me the bad news. We are in Huntsville, AL. White dobermans are great I have one he has no problems at all. Educate yourself, you freaking twelve-year-olds. To make things even more confusing, you also have a "Dobermann" (spelled with two n's) to add to the mix. I am 16 years of age and I am more adult than well over half the people leaving comments here. I just lost my best friend to pheochromocytom had him for almost 9 years. Like every Dobe, hes happiest when with his family (me, my wife, our son, daughter and granddaughter). My Westie wanted to be second in command and over stepped her place so now I cant let the Shepherd and Westie together. Right, exactly what we did not want, a puppy. THE WHITES NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH BAD SKIN OR EYESIGHT OR HEARING! 1. Thats why good little republicans want to outlaw abortion because who wants an unwanted brat around. Also dont give them free rein of the house, maybe just the kitchen or a bedroom, just in case they get into trouble if bored, (use a baby gate). This is where we are today. So.should people breed Doberman Pinschers for the specific purpose of producing Whites? The local shelter has several purebred dobies waiting to be adopted right now. What a bunch of self- flattering snobbery, 1). 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